Amy: I have Yvette Martin with me today on the podcast, and I’m excited for you to meet her! Yvette and I have been long-time acquaintances and then friends. Yvette, do you want to tell people how we met years ago?

Yvette: [laughter] I know! I’m thinking about it and, gosh, I think it’s been over ten years ago! Ten to fifteen, maybe? I was going to a bookstore here in town to see one of my friends. Her husband had written a book and he was gonna have his book there, and so I was just going to show support for them. And there were other authors there. You and Shaun were there, and I remember stopping by and we just started talking. I really had a great conversation, and since then I just kind of stayed connected either by going to and volunteering at the church or any other opportunities to fellowship together. So that’s how our relationship started and it’s continued ever since. Glad to be here talking with you today!

Amy: Thank you, and I’m so excited to be visiting with you! I know that you have so much wisdom and insight for everyone listening, so I’m excited for them to get to hear you. Tell everyone a little bit about your career and family life.

Yvette: I am originally from Colorado and I came to Minnesota for medical school a little over twenty years ago, and I thought I was gonna be in Minnesota for medical school but then ended up doing all my training here and ultimately I’m taking my first job as a physician in Minnesota. That was my path to Minnesota and my career choice as an anesthesiologist. Over the time that I’ve been a faculty member I’ve done clinical work, research, teaching residents, I’ve gotten more involved in administrative roles at the hospital, as well as National roles. That keeps my curious side busy because I’ve got all these different hats to be wearing. It keeps it kind of fun. I have also been married for just a little over five years to a very wonderful guy! I couldn’t have been blessed with someone better. He really compliments me, and encourages me like a cheerleader, as I am for him. He is a teacher and a coach which means he’s also working outside the home, so we kind of work together on doing the roles that we have outside of the home and then finding time for each other and building our own relationship together as well. No kids yet, but I will say that I’m at that stage now where I have a elderly parents, so I’m kind of learning what it means to be a caregiver in that type of role. Maybe that might resonate with some of the people who are listening here today who may have kids and also be caring for parents as well. I’m happy to speak on any of these things today.

Amy: Can you just share a little bit about your personality type, whether you wanna talk about certain personality type inventories or just what you’re like? In the time I’ve known you the one thing I can say is that you are so fun! I remember us having dinner one night and one of the options at this restaurant was the chef’s choice. They would bring you four or five courses. You had no idea what you were getting, but you were like “Ooo! I’ll take that one. I love excitement! I love the surprise!” And I thought you were a daring person. I don’t know that I would do that. [laughter] You’ve gotta be pretty high I mean on the fun-loving, life-of-the-party, excitement side. How would you describe yourself?

Yvette: I am definitely on the extroverted side. I don’t shy away from talking to people or crowds or anything like that. I can do the big crowds, but I also do one-on-one as well. I enjoy getting to know people and what drives them to make the decisions they do, or how they became who they are. I like getting to know people a little more. I am one who does not shy away from an opportunity to do something that maybe no one else has done. [laughter] So I can’t say that I have one specific hobby. I’m always picking up something new because of this kind of just curious and courageous kind of nature. I don’t feel like I’m all that courageous, but I guess maybe when people see what the things I’ve done it makes them think that I am. I’ve done a variety of things from deciding one year I was going to start running and then ending up running marathons for a couple years in a row, to starting a soap business, to traveling places on my own. I was single for quite a while so I was pretty fearless. I wasn’t gonna let not being married yet keep me from viewing the world, so I went all kinds of places independently and totally enjoyed it. So if there’s an opportunity to try something as simple as a dish on a menu the chef has chosen for us and I will take it! [laughter]

Amy: Have you ever taken the Love Languages test? What especially makes you feel loved?

Yvette: I think when it first came out several years ago I remember reading the book and identifying pretty highly with words of affirmation. It just resonated with me. I think that, if I’m taking on some of these new roles, hearing those words of affirmation helps push me a little bit more. I didn’t have this revelation then. [laughter] Over time I’ve kind of come to figure that out, but that’s why I think words of affirmation resonate well with me. They help me reinforce that I can do it. If others are kind of seeing what I’m doing and saying “yeah! Keep going,” it encourages me.

Amy: I’m always curious about that one because I find women that are high-achievers in life and on strong career paths oftentimes identify highly with words of information. And so that’s pretty common. On average, what is your weekly schedule? How many hours are you putting in? How many patients are you seeing a week?

Yvette: As an anesthesiologist I am working together with surgeons, so my schedule varies upon what surgeries have been scheduled and how many. On a weekly basis I have no set schedule, and that would probably drive some people nuts. I can’t tell you three weeks from now what my week is going to look like, but it is something that I’ve grown accustomed to and figured out ways to find a sense of control in a very loose and chaotic day-to-day schedule. On average, I would say that I’m probably doing fifty to seventy hours of clinical work. Seventy hours does sound like a lot, but it is the true number, and that can be mixed. It could be a full clinical week where I’m in the operating room working with patients and getting them ready for surgeries, or it could be a mixture of that and research. Not necessarily a laboratory but more writing papers, reviewing data, working with residents on that, or administrative stuff like coming up with protocols or putting out fires [laughter] as people the administrator role get to do sometimes. So all of those things are what I do in that fifty to seventy hours. My mornings are early. They start at seven o’clock in the morning sharp, but I will start at seven o’clock in the morning even on days when I’m not seeing patients. I am a morning person. I just find there’s some benefits in having a consistent time pattern so that the days I do have to get up it’s not like “ugh. I’m up early.” Instead I can say, “nope, I’m always up that early,” and then my days can go until five, six, or seven.

Amy: With the role you’re in–putting in fifty to seventy hours a week–and being married as well now in the last five years, what do you find are your biggest pain points in life?

Yvette: I was married later in life so I kind of had established a system and a pattern and a career path, and my husband as well, so we kind of have those and then we were adding married on top of that. So the pain point came when we realized “oh my gosh! This is like way too much! We need to restructure how we think about this marriage together and our work individually.” Now we’ve kind of figured out that it’s us first, and then how we fit in our work schedule with hobbies and all those things on top of it. So that was a pain point that we didn’t get to until about a year-and-a-half in. We were exhausted all of the time. I was like “this is not working!” Now it’s much better because we took a step back and decided what things we need to say no to and what things we need to prioritize together. It’s not a perfect system because there’s a lot of flux, but it’s great. We have a good relationship and get a lot of time together even though we work a lot.

Amy: What kind of things did you start pruning from your life, and what did you start prioritizing to make things work and flow better?

Yvette: Two parts to that. So the first is, for myself, just saying no to new things so that I could kind of wrap up or continue the things that I already had. That was hard because I’m someone who likes to take on new things and challenges and things like that. So that was a challenge for me, but I knew that there was going to be a long-term gain out of it. I told myself that God has a plan for each and every step of where we’re at, so even though I’m saying no to one opportunity I’m fully confident that He’s got a whole bunch more for in the future. I don’t need to worry about saying no to it and I don’t have to justify it to other people because it’s fine. There’s gonna be another opportunity in the future.

Amy: Was it hard to say no at first?

Yvette: Yes! Definitely. And that’s why I mentioned that part of justifying myself to others, because others will come to me and say, “but why aren’t you applying for this? We really think that you’d be great in this role,” and you know that comes down to the words of affirmation. So I’m hearing all this stuff that I like to hear, but my husband and I made a commitment together to be married for a lifetime. That’s gonna require short-term sacrifice, but it’s for a gain that exceeds anything that others might be selling me or telling me at this time. So yes, it was hard and I’ve had to do it more than once, but I think it’s gotten easier because of those first times when I started doing it. 

The other thing was that we had to figure out which one of us liked to do something more than the other, what things neither of us liked to do, and how we could still get those done as painlessly as possible. Getting groceries, for example, is something that needs to be done because we both like to eat. I don’t mind cooking, but getting the groceries takes time. So that’s when I started doing online shopping and building lists that we both have access to. And so as we go through our day or if we grab something from the cabinet and it’s empty we just put it on the list right away. Then at the end of the week it’s not hard because we already know the things that we need. We’re both contributing, but we kind of outsource a little bit of that so that we’re happy with the things that we do need to do and we have more time for each other.

Amy: In addition to the groceries strategy, do you have any other organizational hacks at home or in the workplace that have really helped you? Anything that just makes life flow easier?

Yvette: I have a list of meals that I know are easy to cook and require very minimal ingredients. I have a whole bunch of breakfasts, lunches, and dinners because if I’m getting home late at night it can be kind of hard to have the desire to make something good. Along the same lines, I’m big on rescue meals–that’s what I call them. It’s the stuff that I put in the freezer and pull out when we know that we’re gonna be too busy. [laughter] We may go a whole week eating rescue meals, but we feel good about it because we’re still eating home cooked meals. It’s just that neither of us had to prepare or take the time. It’s already ready to be pulled out. I’m an organizational junkie, so I could go on for a while. [laughter] I use an online list manager or task manager kind of program. it’s called Nozbe. It was created by a group of guys in Poland, and I kinda stumbled upon it when they first launched the app, and now I’ve been using this tool for ten or twelve years and seen how they grow. I can put all of my to-do list things on there. I can group it by projects. I can put things I need to be reminded of in the future and it will only show up on that day. I can put in things I need to do twice a year and set reminders so it always shows up twice a year. I’ve worked with the system quite a bit so I know how to use it, and it’s been immensely helpful. It also helps that you can assign time to each task. That is something that helped me realize why some weeks I felt more burned out than others. When I finally started accounting for where my time goes I realized, “oh gosh! It’s no wonder I’m tired. I just did seventy hours of clinical work and I’m going into another fifty-hour week of clinical work.” At the beginning of the day I may have a whole bunch of things on the list, but I look at how many hours it’s gonna take to do all those things and it’s more than the twenty-four we have allotted and it doesn’t include sleep or eating. I can see that this is unrealistic for me to try to achieve in a day, and it’s gonna cause more stress for me to see this really long list, so that means I need to either delegate or I need to re-prioritize which things I’m gonna be able to get done today. That allows me to tell other people, “okay. I know you wanted this by this day, but it’s gonna have to be by this time instead because I’ve got these other things going on.” I hope that people appreciate it. I feel a lot better because it alleviates the stress of having a lot of things on your to do list. If you don’t have a sense of when you’re ever going to get them done that just makes it more stressful. Knowing I’ve got this much time and I can achieve these things allows me to feel like I’m using my time wisely and keeping myself less stressed. 

Amy: You just mentioned delegating. Outside of work, is there anything you delegate? For example, the other day I was just thinking “laundry is so much work. Is there some place I could get to do laundry for a family of five?” So I started looking online to see if Rochester had anything. As it turns out, there is a nation-wide company called Poplin that will pick up your laundry, wash it, and deliver it the next day. I thought that was a great idea and I should start doing that! So I was curious, do you have anything you delegate out, or someone you hire on the side to do errands for you?

Yvette: We do have someone who comes and cleans for us. That’s something that was hard for me to admit that I needed because my mom always cleaned and I cleaned, but it was just not gonna happen consistently because the time wasn’t there. That’s kind of the last thing that got done, so having someone to come in and do that every couple weeks has really been helpful. It’s nice to come in and see the house is all clean! [laughter] It’s a little bit of joy! Otherwise, I can’t think of anything else that I have outsourced. Usually just creating a system within both my husband Brent’s and my abilities and time to be able to do.

Amy: You made the comment that your mom used to clean. Do you ever find that’s a challenge for you to think about? I’m guessing your mom did not work outside the home? 

Yvette: She did not. Not until I was in college. Then she decided to get a job. But yeah, she was the traditional homemaker. Very traditional. She did everything: cooking, cleaning, caring for me. My dad did as well, but she also cared for my cousins while their mom worked. She was kind of daycare but it was family, so not quite that kinda daycare. I grew up seeing her as an example of a woman’s role in the home, and everything she did my dad really happy, and they’ve been together now for sixty years–they just celebrated their sixtieth anniversary–so what I was exposed to kind of equated to my mind that these things happen and then that’s how you get a successful marriage that goes on for sixty years. And my husband is the same way. He had the same kind of set up as well at home. His mom worked a little bit more outside the home, but it was still that more traditional role there. Although, my husband doesn’t really have a major expectation for me to do all of these things. He’s happy. His like love-language is acts of kindness, so any kind of act is really something that he appreciates and loves. If I do some of these things he shines, so I do but he doesn’t put that expectation for all of those kinds of home making skills on me. My mom and I still talk like everyday so she’ll be like, “what are you cooking today? Why didn’t you have this done?” [laughter] I have to be like, “well Mom, you remember that I work [laughter] and there’s not always the time for me to think about this.” Then she’ll say, “oh yeah! That’s right.” I read a really good quote once about a woman who was working. She was a professional woman, and she was talking to her mom who was a traditional stay-at-home mom but was now retired. The daughter said, “you know, Mom, you’re REtired so you have time to do this. I’m just tired!” [laughter] I’ve been trying to explain to and educate others on the differences in roles while still maintaining a little bit of them. Because I know that there’s a lot of value in serving my husband in that way. It makes him happy. It brings us together, and that’s what I wanna do in my marriage as well.

Amy: I think a lot of women have that inner-struggle when they’re working and have a family, but they grew up with a mom who was in a traditional role. They can sometimes feel like they’re not as great as their mom was because she could do everything. She could make an elaborate meal, and keep everything hot at the same time, and get it all on the table. How do you even do that, let alone make a small meal? I find a number of ladies telling me that they have that internal struggle, so I love how you just don’t feel guilty for it. You know you have a calling and you explain that to your mom, and your husband is great with that, and obviously like you said it helps that you two got married a little bit later. You were established in your single life before so that probably caused him not to have any expectation on you since he was already used to taking care of himself.

Yvette: Yes, exactly! I do attribute some of that to getting married a little bit later.

Amy: So, what do you do when you are exhausted? What is your go-to for replenishment? Do you have certain things when you’re feeling tired that you do–in addition to sleep,of course–that just fills you back up?

Yvette: It’s quiet time for me. I will tell my husband I need quite time, and we both know when I say I need quiet time I’ve kind of reached my limit. There’s no more margin. It’s time for me to retreat and have that opportunity to turn off my mind, not have to think about anything, and just be in my thinking chair. It’s just my favorite chair in the house with my mug whether it’s tea or hot water, whatever it is that I’m drinking, and just recharge. That’s the way I do it in order to be able to be on. It’s not like it’s a performance, but I’m available at work, available at home, available for my parents, available for friends, so I sometimes just need to be available for me and that’s my quiet time. It’s not elaborate, but it’s just that time for me.

Amy: So it’s in the chair. Are you reading a book, or just resting? Taking a nap? 

Yvette: Yeah! I like reading a book, and ironically it might be a book on productivity [laughter] or something like that. But it doesn’t stress me out to read something like that ’cause I’m like, “oh, okay. I’m just reading for pleasure.” I’m not like reading to try to fix something. I’m just looking at what this author has to say about this topic. Oftentimes I end up falling asleep, and then I’ll wake up and read a little bit more, so it’s kind of this ability to be. If my body wants to sleep, it sleeps. If it wants to read a little bit, it can. I might also journal during that time, although I do journal pretty regularly, so I think if there’s a lot that I’ve been going through or a lot that’s on my mind I might start off with that, and then transition to a little bit of fun reading. And maybe some sleep.

Amy: Now you’re like you are a believer, what does your time with the Lord look like?

Yvette: My time is consistent and daily because I need it, and I know when I don’t get it. My mornings are early, as I’ve mentioned, but I get up earlier to make sure that I get that time in. I have a system that can change depending on what’s going on, but I typically like to start off with my Bible reading and devotional first, and then after that I kind of have–I don’t know how to describe it–but I’ve written out something that I feel like God has kind of shown me about myself. I read that then since it’s already written out and it’s just something that I go over every day. I read it to myself and internalize or reflect on it and how it applies on that day. I feel like, even though it’s the same words, every day it just has a little different meaning for what I’m going through. It’s just a mixture of what I feel like God has told me about myself. Kinda helping me see myself the way He sees me. And then the next part is about what types of things kind of come against me to try and derail me from connecting continually with God and finding Him as my source and my strength, and recognizing the ability that I have through Him. So going over that set me up for the day. Then I like ending it with my prayer time. Usually I’m on the bike, or I might be walking to work while I do this. Then by that point I’m ready to go. And then finally, I can set different faces on my smartwatch and so I have it attached to the photos on my phone, but the photos are actually scriptures and words of affirmation that are meaningful to me. So those are on my watch, and when I look at my watch I’ll see a new one and I’ve associated like the picture with whatever’s on there, so I don’t even have to read it all. I just get a little reminder throughout the day since we’re always looking at our watches for whatever it might be; time or a text or something. Those are the kind of ways I’ve integrated making sure that I’m putting God first and always.

Amy: That reminds me of when–I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Ed Mylett. He’s a podcaster and speaker–Shaun and I were in Texas and heard him speak last year. He made the comment that he had really struggled in his life up until a certain point. He had been raised by an alcoholic father and had to deal with everything that comes with that. But then a day came when he was just absolutely broken, and he looked to God and said, “Lord, who am I? Who do you see me to be?” And he clearly heard words that the Lord was speaking about who He had made him to be. Ed said that was a game-changer in his life, and everything turned around. I think there’s something so powerful that occurs when you have those things actually written down. And I love that you said, after you have your time reading your Bible, that you actually go through and read that, because it’s so centering. I have to say, you are one of the most calm and peaceful people in a high-demand role that I’ve ever met. So it doesn’t surprise me that you have that routine you keep going back to, because you seem to stay very confident in who you are and who God has made you to be.

Yvette: Well thank you! You know, these days I think there are a lot of external forces that come in and try to tell us who we are, who we need to be, where we need to go, what we need to look like, or think like. So I encourage anybody to take that time during your own prayer time or devotional time and just ask God to show you and he definitely will show you! It may not come in an obvious way, but, once you start looking for it, He’s definitely gonna reveal it to you. For me it’s taken probably about two to three years, and it’s evolved, but I feel like where it’s at now is probably the clearest it’s ever been, so I’m encouraged and glad to hear others are doing it! I would definitely encourage other people that it will offset the inputs that we get that are really quite negative.

Amy: So true. So, out of curiosity, what do you and Brent like to do together for refreshment in your life, such as date things or activities you do?

Yvette: Well, we have a weekly date night, and we make sure to call it “date night.” We try to go to a new restaurant or an old favorite just because it gives us that time to connect together, you know? It’s the time that’s reserved for the two of us to talk about what’s been going on in life, but also to dream together. It’s a time to ask ourselves where we see not just this next week going, but the next year, and the next five years. And then we can laugh about some of the things we’ve done that have been like, “oh, what we thinking five years ago when we said *blank*,” [laughter] “and here we are now!” That time is really important to us. We also have some real simple pleasures in life, so we’ll go to garage sales and estate sales together because we like looking for old antique things. It’s just kinda fun to do that together. We enjoy traveling. It’s nice that my job has the opportunity to send me to different places. Brent has a job with some flexibility, as a substitute teacher. Going back to those things that we’ve done to figure out how to make our relationship work, that job was an intentional choice. It was better for him to work as a substitute teacher rather than a full time teacher so that: A) he go with me on my business trips and pack a little vacation time in if we can; and then B) if our air conditioner went out and we needed somebody to come, he could be there instead of both of us having to figure out who’s gonna be home at that time. It just takes a little bit of stress off by one of us having that flexibility. Going back to the other things we like to do together, I kinda mentioned that we’re starting a soap business, so we make up together as well. We’ve got some of our business ventures that we do together, traveling, and then simple things like going out together.

Amy: Now, do you have a set time in your schedule that you take a vacation, or does that just go along kind of randomly with your work schedule?

Yvette: There are certain times I have put in for vacation, so we try to take some vacation time in the summer because as a teacher Brent’s off during the summer. That works as a really good time to be able to go. Otherwise we are kind of a little spontaneous about it. [laughter] This summer it was just like, “okay! Where should we go?” and in two weeks I knew I was gonna have a three-day weekend and so we decided to go to Toronto so we could explore a new city together. It’s a little bit planned, and a little bit spontaneous as well.

Amy: What is your favorite vacation place that you’ve ever been to?

Yvette: Oh wow! My favorite one? Just one? [laughter] We went to Saint Kitts together. It was for a meeting, but the meeting was very short and then we had a lot of time–several days–after. It was great! The Island is small and there wasn’t a lot that you might do as far as touristy stuff, so every day it was really just a lot of quality time by the beach and walking around in the small town. It was really just a nice low-key vacation in a beautiful place. It happened to be in the middle of January, so that makes it a bonus for those of us who are in Minnesota to go somewhere super warm. It was a really great trip from the time we left Minnesota. All of it was great! And sometimes when you travel, the traveling part is the worst part, but actually getting there is nice. But it was nice the whole trip, which is really refreshing for both of us.

Amy: As we are wrapping up I have two questions for you. Question one is do you have a favorite book that was a real game changer for you in your life or career? 

Yvette: I read a lot of different books. [laughter] One that I go back to is Eat That Frog by Brian Tracy. I remember first reading that book a really long time ago and I’ve gone back to it over and over again. You can just pick out any little chapter! He has a number of different productivity tips in there, and I like reading about them being like, “oh yeah! That’s one I can try to apply here.” I really like that book a lot!

Amy: It’s funny you mentioned that one because our fifteen-year-old daughter just read it, and she said, “I love this author! He doesn’t have a bunch of fluff in his writing. It’s all to the point. Can you get me a bunch more books by Brian Tracy?” We just love him.

Yvette: Oh, fantastic! [laughter] I’m excited for her. If she’s already reading that book, this is good. [laughter] I wish I would’ve read it at fifteen! [laughter]

Amy: So what is your other book?

Yvette: The Little Book of Big Lies. It’s by Tina Lifford, I think. I didn’t know the author, I just happened to be in the library–which I should say, I like reading but it’s rare that I actually go to the library. For some reason I was in the library at the time, and it was just on the end cap, and I was like, “Ooo! I think I’ll pick it up,” as an African-American woman was the author. I read it once and I was like, “Oh wow! This is really good!” I have since probably read the book five or six times. She’s always trying to help people work on inner-fitness. You work on your outer body but maybe we all need to work on our insides as well, and although she never articulates that she’s a Christian–sometimes you read some of the self-help books and there’s no faith behind it, and so I read them with a little grain of salt, but when people have a little more faith behind them then I’m like, “let’s see what see what you’re sharing.” I really like how she talks about the lies that we’ve been told over the years, though everyone might be a little bit different, and ways in which we can work to identify them and then be able to get past them. Because on the other side of that is oftentimes an area where we can really help others, or have victory in whatever area it is. The book just kinda resonated with me for the past couple years since I first saw at the library, and so I can read that one a couple of times a year.

Amy: You really piqued my interest on that. I think I’ll have to go read it. 

Do you have a life-verse that you live by?

Yvette: For me, it would be Psalm 27:1. I was kinda thinking about why it is that that verse comes back to me. It’s talking about why should I be afraid or whom should I dread, you know? I think, as someone who is always kind of on that edge of doing something that’s outside of my comfort zone, this verse really empowers me and reminds me that God is with me, and I wouldn’t have these ideas and desires if He hadn’t placed them in me and given me the courage to keep going. So I need not fear and I need not dread because He is with me. So that is my life-verse.

Amy: Thank you so much for sharing with all of us today! It’s been super-encouraging and fun to hear about your life’s journey. I’m curious, for anyone younger–especially any young women who are launching into the medical field or some other professional field–is there any advice that you’d have for them as they start their journey?

Yvette: Yes! I’m no stranger to the challenges of the time pressures that we have and the expectations, especially in training. There are just certain things you have to do, certain places you have to be, and you don’t have that flexibility to be able to say “no” maybe as much as you’d like to. But be able to identify in yourself when you are drained, when you have no margin left. Then the next step is to be able to identify right before you’re getting to that point, because you never wanna be at that point where you have no margin left. That way you’ll know it’s time for you to recharge. Then identify what those techniques are. When I talked about quiet time, that’s something that I had for myself even when I was single. It’s not something that I just created now, but that was something that I used then, and it just carried on. So if you are able to identify those things and integrate them now it gets a lot easier later on. 

The second thing I would say is don’t be afraid to be different. Maybe those words are easy for me to say, but early on I would say no to things and people would be like, “why are you saying no?” but now people ask, “how is it that you’re able to say no? How do you say ‘no’ gracefully?” It was something that was hard at first because I was different. I was going against the expectations. But now it is something that people are kind of embracing and wanting to take on themselves. Your life is being observed by others and we have an opportunity to be  a reflection of God and who He has made us to be. It’s also an opportunity then later on to share with them how I use my faith to be able to say no, or how I use my faith to be able to recharge. 

So that’s what I’d say. Know where you’re at now and what you need, and then also don’t be afraid to be different.

Amy: Great advice!  Well thank you so much for being with us today! I appreciate you taking the time to do this. 

Yvette: Thank you so much! This was so much fun! I hope that it really resonates with your listeners, and that people will be able to be helped professionally and at home as well.